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In this conversation with WFHB’s Will Murphy, former Bloomington Chamber of Commerce President Steve Howard explains why he thinks economic planners in Monroe County could learn something from the leaders in Bhutan. Howard, who also served in the U.S. Navy for 36 years, including three years as Commander of the Crane Naval Warfare Center in southern Indiana, thinks “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” should be assigned to the scrap heap of history. In this hour-long discussion, the former drop-out turned Commander talks about the nature of leadership, and tells why he thinks you should read things you’re not interested in.