Host Andy Mahler explores “permaculture” with guests Peter Bane and Rhonda Baird. Permaculture is about designing ecological human habitats and food production systems. It is a land use and community building movement which strives for the harmonious integration of human dwellings, microclimate, annual and perennial plants, animals, soils, and water into stable, productive communities. The focus is not on these elements themselves, but rather on the relationships created among them by the way we place them in the landscape. This synergy is further enhanced by mimicking patterns found in nature. Now a Bloomington resident, Peter Bane is the publisher of Permaculture Activist, the world’s oldest permaculture publication, the co-founder of Earthaven eco-village in North Carolina, and an internationally known permaculture instructor and designer. Rhonda Baird is an apprentice permaculture teacher and design consultant. She is also the founder of the Bloomington Permaculture Guild. They talk about the history, practice, and need for permaculture design in today’s world.